Amber Guyger Guilty! Lawyer Reacts To Amber Guyger Trial on Court TV

we the jury unanimously find the defendant Amber gger guilty of murder as charged in the indictment no outburst and it is signed by the presiding juror who is juror number 11 Mr Rogers would you like to have the jury PLL there you all right you may be seated Miss Gyer the verdict was murder which then raised the question that a lot of people were asking today why was this murder and not manslaughter this just seemed like someone who was you know didn’t didn’t plan all of this didn’t want to do it um well let’s take a look at why this is murder and not manslaughter the man Slaughter Penal Code Title 5 chapter 19 the prosecution must prove Beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant recklessly caus the death of another human being okay recklessly where in this case is there evidence of recklessly killing a human being I don’t remember hearing any of that and as a matter of fact during his closing argument uh the prosecutor really did a nice job of explaining what a reckless death would be versus an intentional death take a listen this is not quitter it’s murder versus manslaughter and it’s murder manslaughter might have been if that second shot that she fired through the wall hit somebody down the block walking around maybe that’s manslaughter maybe although I’d still argue that’s not clearly dangerous to human life but you know what thank God that bullet didn’t hit anybody a going in there just guns blazing so where’s the the recklessness I mean I’m I’m trying to understand why people are thinking that the shooting was Reckless because the testimony was very clear and and the circumstances were clear she went into the apartment and are you saying she recklessly killed him like she didn’t intend to kill him that’s that’s not how that’s not how it works and there was no evidence of and I think in this case and I’m gonna ask my guest in just a moment if this jury came back and found her guilty of manslaughter I think the defense could have appealed that and had that tossed out because there was no factual basis for it the prosecution didn’t argue for it the defense didn’t argue for nobody argued for it so it’s a good thing if this jury wanted a conviction to stand that they didn’t say manslaughter here let me bring back in my Think Tank and I’ll begin of course in Texas because you know Texas law a lot better than I do at Alan Chandler was there any sort of argument or factual basis for manslaughter here no and we argued that from the very beginning it had to be murder it had to be uh because she specifically said I intended to kill him I mean she pointed it she said I intended to neutralize the the threat basically so she looked right at him and said that manslaughter around here and in most criminal jurisdictions is going to be the compromise punishment you know we’re going to find him guilty of man goes well you know not everybody could get be unanimous you know maybe half of us are saying yeah the other half are like oh it’s sympathetic so we’ll go with manslaughter yeah and you’re right though that’s not technically the definition technically they should have gone with homicide they should have gone with murder murder was spoton and so if they would have gone with manslaughter I think you’re right they could have had an appell issue would have been a problem and so they did the right thing well we start talking about man manslaughter we’re talking about Reckless Behavior like that you know I pointed the gun and I had my finger on the trigger and I accidentally squeeze it or or I’m just shooting at a car that’s driving away and then my bullet strikes and and kills someone they were trying to use that whole scared white woman that they did which was H I didn’t know what floor I was on and I didn’t know what door it wasn’t my door and I couldn’t see this and I just didn’t see that and that was being Reckless coming into the wrong apartment was being Reckless and I think that the defense was trying to confuse the jury well the defense the defense wasn’t didn’t argue for it but they didn’t but they they didn’t but they did and then another thing is is that as jurors well as onlookers we were like they would probably just do we were scared at the i in the beginning remember that the grand jury indictment was for manslaughter because they thought that they were going to be able to get manslaughter like as Allan said cuz that would have been the compromise and then when this new um prosecutor said murder it was like oh god let’s see what happens and they did not they did not stop from start to finish they they pushed intent they pushed intent and the state because it was clear let’s take a look now at why this is murder and we’ll take a look at the law in Texas and and let the folks know why this is murder the defendant intentionally and knowingly caused the death of another person I mean to me that’s pretty clear yeah the defendant intended to cause serious bodily injury and committed an act that was clearly dangerous to human life and this act caused the death of an individual I mean not only is it just clear before the trial started as the trial continued the words of the defendant herself confirmed her intent take a listen you shot at Mr Jean you knew you were using deadly force against him yes you know what a bullet can do don’t you yes I do and when you shot at him twice you intended to kill him yes sir and it started before the trial I mean even on the 911 call she is admitting that she killed someone shot him on purpose take a listen I’m an Aly officer I thought it was in my apartment and I shot a guy thinking that he was thinking it was my apartment he some yes I thought it was my apartment oh my God I’m sorry where are you at right now I’m in what do you mean I’m inside the apart and then during the trial once again she actually sort of reenacted what she did which she did intentionally it wasn’t an act it wasn’t an accident it wasn’t Reckless it was intentional the firing of the gun take a listen I have my gun pointed and I’m saying let me see your hands let me see your hands what were you focused on him just him yes and then he began coming towards you yes okay and as he became coming toward you that’s when you heard him speak yes okay I’m going to do that now all right yes sir hey hey hey and that’s at that point whenever I shot somewhere in this area yes sir when you shot what happened he fulfilled it oops I mean she said it on direct on cross on the 911 call I mean the ele ments of the crime or what prosecutors have to prove and establish and it was really uncontested in this case so and I understand people look at the the whole thing and say yeah but it doesn’t seem like traditional murder it it but you just have to prove the elements of the crime yeah you can’t go into somebody else’s apartment claim it as your own because you’re not looking around you’re just looking um at a man with your finger on the trigger and you can’t kill them that’s the lesson and you can’t do that and then she lied she kep on saying she said hey hey hey or you know she announced herself 300 people were in the apartment not one person testified not even in her Witnesses testified that she said anything of the matter the the one neighbor did say he heard two distinct voices he couldn’t tell what was being said but he heard two distinct voices Allan I’ll let you let you jump in here because I heard your voice go ahead I I want to clear something up um the defense and the prosecution were both going for murder they weren’t neither one of them was thinking about manslaughter at all and the facts and circumstances that the defense was bringing up were going to mistake a fact defense which would be a defense to the murder charge not the manslaughter so they they weren’t trying to get any recklessness in there they were literally trying to defeat the murderer by bringing up the mistake of facts so I just wanted to put that out I think that’s to say they were all going for the Finish Line being murdered right and I want to make it very clear for the viewers cuz a lot of people were confused why this whole thing wasn’t a manslaughter case because and and as Alan points both sides were going for that now what the defense was doing was this perversion of the castle doctrine where somehow and the jury didn’t buy it and and prosecutors argued against it that somehow you could be protecting your own castle when you’re entering and intruding in someone else’s home and it’s all on the mistake of fact I understand mistake of fact if you believe it and you believe it’s reasonable turns everything upside down but it’s like upside down and inside out and at the end of the day a jury can decide whether or not they’re going to buy it or not and they they weren’t buying it they weren’t buying it when you look at when you think about the facts in this case right it was too much to look at to think that this was a mistake of fact like because you’re supposed to have as a police officer specialized training no she made a mistake the question is was it reasonable or unreasonable and if she makes this mistake is she entitled then to then use the castle doctrine to get away with all that’s where it becomes a problem is where when you make a big mistake and you kill someone and you shouldn’t have to then go on the offensive in someone else’s house I can’t imagine how maybe maybe like one L lost students first year law students would love that and find that cool but a jury is we could have told you from the beginning they were never going to buy something like that and then and then the whole mistake situation it it’s her actions afterwards you know it’s the delete deleting of the text messages it’s the you know it’s the weird things that were happening afterwards that just really didn’t help their mistake of fact defense like if you were a mistake of fact that’s fine okay you then render Aid then do something to help like just it was it was just too much it that’s going to be the most Dam in my opinion that’s going to be the most damaging part of the sentencing phase of this because when all that comes out there’s not going to be a counterbalance for that because you then look at all right if you’re begging for some level of Mercy what did you do to the least of these IE Mr Jean who’s laying down there on the floor yeah or when the fames in the courtroom and you’re testifying and you’re you’re not showing any emotion about the fact that you killed somebody um you know I think that putting the family through that and now that there’s a guilty verdict I think that that’s going to weigh into this too she could have just pled guilty and and spared the family all the drama no but she thought she was going to get off like you do you think she was confident do you think she was confident was in the you you had all the conf I didn’t see someone who was confident her assessment her assessment of anything is yeah I thought she was confident she was out on bond you understand she had time to go back to her apartment she she was confident she had the boys in Blue Back her she had you know there was no one in that courtroom that back her oh yes sir there was a police officer who some when police off no no no no I got to disagree with you sometimes when police officers are on trial you will see a wall of blue show up that support that did not Happ I’m talking about was that Texas Ranger who got stand DAV Armstrong yes he got up on the stand and say she was justified in what she did he was the lead inves jury didn’t hear that though right thank God but still that’s the issue it was like I think it was like a a moment to the to the society like hey we we got you we’re going to say this crap on on like on the stand and it was just that that’s the type of support that she kept getting absolutely go ahead Alan look I was going to say three things and I’ll be really quick one is the defense did the best they could with what they had and you know she literally surrendered every element of the offense to them boom here we go and she did it three four different times so that’s the first thing the second thing is um when when you’re talking about somebody like this I got questions all day today about premeditation was this premeditated you know how come it wasn’t premeditated did she have pre don’t she have to have premeditation no you do not have to have premeditation and even if you did I used to talk to people and I’m sure the colleagues on the board will say the same thing it’s like think of a pink elephant okay that’s as much time as you need to form premeditation so those are some of the things that you’re looking at but the bottom line is all the things that she did both before during and after and that 911 phone call convicted her yeah you know that was it it was a conviction conviction conviction and they did the best they could but that’s it all right we’ve got the conviction next it’s time for the punishment and we’re going to analyze some of the factors that this jury can consider when it’s time to Dole out the punishment which again 5 to 99 years in in prison it’s up to the jury all right it is time now for the punishment for Amber gager the jury has found her guilty of murder and that same jury of 12 must now unanimously decide what the punishment will be if they cannot unanimously decide then that part of the trial becomes a mistrial and they will do it all over again with another jury just the punishment not the guilt the guilt stands she is now convicted of murder and the final question for this jury is what will the punishment be five to 99 years is a huge range that this jury has so what are the factors that the jury can consider well we took a look at the law in Texas and these are some of the factors that the jury can consider the prior criminal record of the defendant the general reputation the character an opinion regarding his character and the circumstances of the offense for which she is being tried now there are a couple other factors I want you to take a look at that are usually the most important when it comes to sentencing in Most states in most cases not on the books in Texas but can still be argued that is acceptance of responsibility right and remorse okay so let’s go through these let’s start with General reputation in this case and let’s begin with some testimony today from Sergeant Robert Watson who was guyer’s supervisor take a listen did there come a time where you made an internal affairs Affair referral based on some actions taken by the defendant yes ma’am and would you please explain those to the jury it was regarding an incident where uh Miss guer had an individual in custody and um she was by herself and the individ individual got away he he got up and ran away uh she called for assistance and and other officer showed up to help her all right so what does the jury do with that I mean is that a reason to punish her even more this was put forth by prosecutors yeah this case I I personally think that had she had she done anything correctly like had all the uh procedures as a police officer been done correctly from hiring her until the moment at the red door at the red mat both of John would still be alive had she done anything reasonable as a human being but but but how about this in particular they they put Sergeant Robert Watson up there who testifies about the time that she let somebody run away when she was cover up for her that I don’t think it was that helpful she didn’t she didn’t pay for ultimately she was not a good police officer this is an example of her not being a good police officer but this is another example of the actions that she took that allowed her she wasn’t paying attention to what she was doing that’s how he got away okay let’s move on to another one which goes more to the character which I think folks here have a lot more to say about and remember during the the trial there was that moment where they mentioned the MLK parade and there was this sidebar and then it was obvious to all of us that whatever was in what prosecutors wanted to use was not permitted by the judge at the guilt phase well it came in today take a listen message sent to the defendant when does this end LOL outgoing message from the defendant when MLK is dead dot dot dot 8 dot dot dot incoming message says ha outgoing message ge’s 2 and 1 half hours on 3 hours of this incoming message you could have met one LOL next time incoming message standing at hardwood and ML on opposite end outgoing message just push them or spray with your pepper spray in that general area all right let’s get some reaction how important is this I heard a wow wow I said wow that’s incredibly important yeah I agree with wa because the problem you have is for the first time America is going to see what an African American Le jury with it being predominantly African-American is going to rule in a case like this where there has been so much Injustice in the African-American Community concerning the reversal of roles and I think it’s going to be a powerful statement I think it’s going to be a very powerful statement it just kind of goes to show you that with her badge she seems to think that she has extra privileges where she can just even if she’s just joking I mean it’s obviously not funny that she thinks that pepper spraying people and pushing them cuz she’s a police officer is somehow she racist it was racist it’s an MLK day it’s racism she’s she’s throwing no she’s going to pepper spray people that are trying to trying to celebrate ml Martin Luther King Jr and she’s texting about it in Jess I think the worldes problem I agree what’s what’s incredibly important that should be taken into consideration is that if you’re texting other officers on your city or county issue phones which are subject to open records request then at the department they should have policies about that type of stuff telling you hey you know what your records your phones are subject to open records requests because they don’t belong to you she should know better than Alan go ahead Allan I was going to say I mean I think they do have policies like that quite frankly I mean she’s just she’s not not a stellar officer I mean in painted in the best light possible not a stellar officer I mean she she’s making tons of mistakes I mean and it’ll be really interesting tomorrow quite frankly to see what the defense is going to do I think we already know her I mean we met her through all the things that she said but this is this is not a stellar officer got some more this is social media there’s a Pinterest I’m not on Pinterest myself but I know that it exists and people can comment on it uh take a listen and it states I we all black to remind you not to mess with me because I’m already dressed for your funeral the bottom of States 357 Amber with a smiley face save to love the laugh comment yah I got me a gun a shovel and gloves if I were you back up and get out of all right um how how about that and it’s and it’s the response to the the Pinterest post she didn’t post it but she responded to it she respond she’s like a like a no no she thought she was GI J but then suddenly she was so scared and so whatever when she saw that like come on the word hey being intimidating hey we’re supposed to believe that the person who left that comment just said hey no she’s yeah she’s ready to go that girl ready she ready to go she was ready to she was ready to make up for the mistakes she’s made in the in the department she was ready to be a hero she was ready to take somebody down and she did that for just getting in her way it seems like all right I want to play the 911 call again because this goes again to the circumstances of the event which again can be considered by the jury during the punishment phase I thought it was my apartment they’re trying to get in there there we have an officer there you don’t know the gate no I thought it was my apartment I thought it was apartment okay what what floor are you in right now to the fourth floor hey hey I’m sorry okay where was he where was he sh he’s on the top top left all right it’s obvious They didn’t accept this mistake of fact defense but is the fact that she made a mistake by going in that apartment is that in any way a mitigating Factor here that would have this jury go uh closer to uh less of a punishment than more of a punishment without her text messages or her Pinterest well they have to consider everything yeah so in all no I mean I I think that kind of tells you the way that she’s approaching the world the way walking into doors yeah ready to go there’s nothing that that makes this um go closer to and I’m saying I’m not saying five years but swings uh to less of offense because it’s all based upon a mistake it is based upon mistake whether it’s reasonable or unreasonable she did not go into that apartment thinking uh that she was going into someone else’s apartment I’m going to look at as always the totality of circumstances test right what does she do good what does she do bad if it tilts way one way well that’s because of what she did not me I’m just looking at the totality of circumstances unfortunately in this situation the totality of circumstances to me leans way against her getting five to 10 years okay okay I’m G do one more which is the accepting responsibility and demonstrating remorse now whether you believe her or don’t believe her is another question but this is a criminal defendant who did accept responsibility through her words and express remorse through her words you can believe it or not believe it but most murderers never utter these words take a listen I feel like a terrible person I feel like a piece of crap I hate I hate it every I hate that have to live with this every single day of my life and I ask God for forgiveness and I hate myself every single day I feel like I don’t deserve the chance to be with my family and friends I wish he was the one with the gun that killed me I never wanted to take an innocent person’s life and I am so sorry this is not about hate it’s about being scared that night most murderers who take the stand before they’re found to be a murderer don’t say I’m sorry they don’t say I did it she did both Allan does she get any credit for that in the punishment phase you would think she would but uh she it’s a couched apology it’s like uh I’m really really sorry oh my God this is awful and how does this affect me m you know so if it was strictly oh my God I’m so sorry and she left it at that that might have been good but she keeps going I’m really really sorry and how does this affect me and that’s not really going to help her now with this jury I don’t think how about the fact that she said I’m sorry in the 911 call before she’s ever charged before she’s ever judged by this jury she uttered those words did she get credit for it she said I’m effed same same thing though same thing I’m e like I’m I’m concerned about me cuz you know he did but I’m effed I’m e and then it’s like she what are you doing for him what are you doing you did nothing to help her to help him you did nothing you could have called on your radio you did not do that you called on a regular 91 called 911 get credit for that most murderers don’t call 911 castle doctrine to apologize but then use the castle doctrine seems offensive to me and it it kind of it cancels out let’s take it out of all right she’s been found guilty we’re compar AR when we’re when we’re deciding punishment aren’t we comparing her to other murderers no we can’t we’re not we can if you want we’re not we don’t put them on a scale and say okay this murderer got this this murderer gets that this murderer did this this murderer did that no it’s all in a vacuum yeah well I think not in this case no not in this case and why Alan and the reason it’s not in this case is because she’s a police officer there you go I mean that that killed her basically if she wasn’t a police officer a lot of these things would have had it come a different way but they held her clearly uh because they only deliberated for 5 hours they held her the the standard of a police officer not down here like the average citizen but you had special training you told us you had nine months you did this you did that so yeah all right that’s what’s going to do in everyone you everything you guys are saying sounds like 99 years no no I’m not saying and it may be but let’s find out hey there was a reaction inside that courtroom we talked about that tonight of course there was another reaction on social media coming up next what you had to say about that we’re going to take a look at that and um react to your reaction next explosive so social media reaction tonight to the verdict and the reaction to the verdict and the upcoming sentence of Amber guer who is now convicted murderer let’s get right to it we begin with um oh best name ever Jennifer Frost butter Jennifer uh so sad for everyone I agree that she was guilty but I don’t think anyone should be celebrating Jennifer and I agree with each other yeah I think it’s incredibly in a courtroom you can you can celebrate outside the courtroom just not you got two lines which have ended right so at the end of the day yes there’s human emotion all that type of stuff but Mr John is not coming back and Amber Gyer for all intents and purposes of not coming back so it’s a tragedy all around but the sociological implications are bigger than the two individuals involved and so it the hope is that the viewers and everybody can know that the commentary that we’re providing you is about the sociological implications recognizing this was a tragedy for all the families and everybody involved because this didn’t have to happen when I think of the celebration I I think of a a victim’s family this is the only thing our system can give them is Justice yeah and I think of what happens because I’ve seen it so many times when a victim’s family doesn’t get justice but when they do it’s it’s a celebration but it’s more of a relief than anything else but sometimes it does look like a celebration we’re celebrating the verdict you’re not celebrating you’re celebrating the fact that you got some sense of justice and you weren’t um disappointed and you weren’t harmed and you weren’t victimized again by the system this time and I think that’s what the family is going through you’re leaning forward well I just I also think that the that there’s a movement now that we’re into the sentencing penalty phase that that celebration has kind of become a let’s let’s go to the max which I think is different than what you’re saying I don’t think I think I think they they the jury this particular jury knows what type of case it is I mean you can see the media coverage you see everything you you’ve seen the sidebars you’ve seen all of it it’s been in the paper before you even got picked you know how big this case is even before you were picked for the jury you know you knew the national implications of this case so I don’t think that that celebration for this particular case I don’t think that the celebration really did anything I mean you saw that the jury um is asking I don’t think it affect the any netive here’s something that I I think that and I’ve been thinking about before I got here today right the whole there’s this whole black lives matter right do black lives matter but if you think about it from you got four types of sentences interrogatory declarative exclamatory and what’s the other question word or whatever right you come into many people come into this from the perspective of do black lives matter like that’s a question statement right after you get a jury verdict you’re like black lives matter right from a exclamatory part of VI right but then you also get hopefully at the end a declarative sentence like black lives matter right that that’s what you hope for but you want to you take it through all of that because that’s what people are thinking about when this whole thing started we were shocked as people and that’s why there’s some level of celebration in every way you interpret it Haley writes this man was a law-abiding citizen in the comfort of his own home killed by someone who is supposed to Serve and Protect the people of their City just give her life without any chance of parole Allan that’s not an option here is it life without parole no it’s not 99 years is what we’re looking at and you forgot a $110,000 fine oh okay here’s the deal in this case this is this is about healing okay this is healing a community so many people are looking at this case so you’re your spot on it’s not a celebration it’s a relief thank God she was found guilty because some people were thinking that was not going to happen you know and then what would happen if she was found not guilty so this is a way that this community I think was healed and that happens in certain trials and I think it’s I think that’s really what happened here so and here’s what Kevin writes tonight political I’m not sure that they will make an I’m not sure that they will make an example out of her I would hate to be in her shoes very sad all the way around for everyone involved no need for people to act like crazy fools after the verdict was read easier said than done I’m not going to respond to that okay we go to Kelly I can’t believe they found her guilty of murder I’m not saying she wasn’t guilty or Reckless but not murder # Amber guy guy trial Ash notot a murderer and and we went through this in the beginning of the show and and the reason was because a lot of people were responding like this so I think one thing you have to understand Kelly is that murder that she’s been convicted of is different than murder in some other states because it’s murder but now the jury has has another decision to make and if it wasn’t the jury it’ be the judge there’s a range of potential sentences here which is as important to Amber Gyer as a murder conviction it’s still possible that despite the fact being charged and convicted of murder she could be sentenced within the range at the end of the day that’s someone who was convicted of manslaughter which is 2 to 20 so if if this jury gives anything 20 years and under it’s within the same range as manslaughter so there’s while while it’s murder it’s not like murder in other cases and other jurisdictions where it’s life it’s or life without parole are the only two choices there’s much more uh at stake as we continue in this case Rosanna writes I can’t feel bad for her as an officer she did everything wrong from shooting him to the CPR she said she performed and that’s interesting do you believe that the jury is not going to believe her when she said she tried CPR when perhaps she gets on the stand again during the penalty phase here and says something else do you think they are not going to believe Amber Gyer she has already put out that she has a propensity to lie she’s been lying the whole investigation so to say which lies the which ones oh the deleting the text messages to saying like hey she did commit she did do a perform CPR but just with one hand cuz you know that she did do that she was concerned it’s a consistent lie she lies to get herself out of trouble and she has other people lie for her to get herself out of trouble so I wouldn’t believe anything and as a police officer when you abuse your power and then you don’t use your power to protect and serve especially once you realize you made a mistake um yeah there’s just no excuse for it she’s trained to do better some people don’t have the training that’s true yeah Sharon writes not murder it was not intentional it was to protect they are wrong this was manslaughter at best what Shar Alan Allan what Sharon is really describing here is um Justified homicide self-defense castle doctrine which the jury did not accept it it doesn’t take us down to manslaughter does it no no it doesn’t what people are trying to figure out is why there wasn’t premeditation a lot of people who don’t know the law think oh this person had to have a plan and they had to have a motive and they had to have you know think this through it had to be planned pre-planned not in this case no it does not have she just had to have the intent to take that person’s life and she did and and they’re going to hold it against her because she’s an officer this is what most people have to understand like there’s a there’s common law which everybody or many people think they have a general understanding of what the law is there’s a very State specific law and what Allan is talking about is there’s State specific law in Texas that makes it different than what happens in Georgia and other states which may have some level of premeditation too it that’s not the case in Texas yeah and that’s what makes my job here at court TV so fascinating is we cover trials around the country and we have to bring in experts that we bring here on set and of course local experts like Allan who know the law in that jurisdiction I practiced in New Jersey I’ve lived here in Georgia I’m kind of comfortable with those two states but every other state before the trial starts I got to read up on it I’ve got to research it because there are sometimes big differences sometimes subtle differences but um that’s the the challenge here that the law is slightly different everywhere where we cover trials Monica writes why are they presenting evidence for a sentence guilty is guilty do the crime you do the time plain and simple again we’re in Texas not that simple because the jury will be deciding and the jury has to hear evidence and hear arguments Faith writes so does Amber Gyer go to jail tonight or is she still free on bind other on bond other trials they hand handcuff them when they are pronounced guilty Faith this was again something else we noticed today right away uh but what I will let you know faith is that at the end of the day when the cameras were off her bond was revoked she was locked up she was processed she is behind bars tonight final note this one from Judy this poor woman her son was ripped away from her forever for no reason other than stupidity and she she knew she was going to kill whoever was behind that door without even asking who they were I feel like she wanted to kill based on her social media posts she was a hotthead so now Amber needs to lose her freedom forever and Judy I’m sure that is going to be a big part of the prosecution case as the punishment phase continues when we come back folks it was another huge day it may be an obvious question but there is still punishment to be doled out so who at the end of the day had a better day today was it the prosecution or defense my Think Tank will let you know but I have a suspicion which way they’re going to go we’ll be right back we the jury unanimously find the defendant Amber guer guilty of murder as charged in the indictment this is a a victory for black people in America uh it’s it’s a signal that the The Tide is going to change here police officers are going to be getting to be held accountable for their actions and we believe that that will begin to change policing culture all over the world it’s just been like a roller coaster I cannot sleep I cannot eat it’s it’s just been the most terrible time for me that both of my shot and that he died just very nice personable um lit up a room he got along with everybody um he was one of those guys when he when he started his internship we you know immediately felt comfortable with him he was very active in the church that I want my brother back out message just push them or spray with your pepper spray in that general area I wear all black to remind you not to mess with me because I’m already dressed for your funeral yah I got me a gun a shovel and gloves if I were you back up and get out of one who had been relatively upbeat throughout the entire trial changed while we waited on those Facebook social media post Pinterest post had in her hands she couldn’t even look over in that direction anymore these messages these posts had a clear distinct impact on the jury really an emotional day inside that courtroom A lot happened and it may be an obvious question tonight but we’re still going to ask it who had the better day today was it the prosecution or defense and we begin with Alan Chandler who is in Dallas Texas outside the courthouse tonight who had the better day clearly the prosecution had a better day they had it because they mapped out their strategy before this trial started they prepared properly and they just executed fired on all cylinders and took you right to the top of the mountain and pushed you off so they had the better day clearly and so did the people of Dallas quite frankly Quinton Washington who had a better day today I think the prosecution fine in his closing statement said not here in Dallas not here in Texas not anywhere right that’s important because Miss Jean gets some level of closure to this and the family does as well and I’m often reminded of Langston Hughes in his poem I America I to America when he discusses the fact that African-Americans have fought for equality and we persevered and it has not been at the opposite end of patriotism and it’s been because of our patriotism that we’ve done this and so hopefully she finds comfort in this because she too is America a mercy prosecution or defense the prosecution and why I like this prosecution because with officer involved shootings with unarmed black men you see that the prosecution isn’t really as passionate they’re kind of pretty laxed and that doesn’t really give confidence to the victim’s family or to the uh or to the community and here you saw it from day one that they were passionate about this case that they were passionate about this murder this murder this murder charge that they were passionate about finding Justice for both them John so I was the prosecution got it for me Rachel coffin prosecution or defense today I’m obviously going to stick with the prosecution I think that’s uh they got a guilty verdict and a murder case um and I just I do think it’s a new time the tides are changing and juries are no longer just going to accept a police officer and what they say um to be the truth and they’re not going to make excuses for them anymore and they should um and so yeah the prosecution did a great job yeah I’m going to say prosecution also and the reason I’m saying prosecution is obvious right the verdict was guilty for murder but there was another part of all this and and that was it wasn’t the easiest case in the world because no one is saying that Amber Gyer woke up this morning that morning and and was planning to kill someone that she had a plan that she thought about it she made a mistake jury found it was an unreasonable mistake and and at the end of the day the the argument I think that resonated the most for everyone was that it you can’t be sitting at home doing nothing enjoying yourself in a bowl of ice cream and someone cannot come in there and shoot you just can’t be done so that was today Chanley painter has a look ahead to tomorrow in Dallas Vinnie the punishment phase is underway here in Dallas Texas so far the state has called four Witnesses and its sentencing against Amber Gyer in front of the jury and we can expect a handful of witnesses tomorrow morning before the defense takes over they can offer testimony in mitigation we can expect to hear from Amber geer’s mother and sister who left the courtroom earlier today to be outside the presence of the jury it’s likely because they’ll be called on behalf of Amber Gyer and will we hear from Amber Gyer again now in the sentencing phase we do know that she was remanded into the custody of the sheriff after court today she is spending tonight in jail will return in the morning the attorneys will be here a little bit earlier 8:30 9:30 Eastern to hammer out jury instructions for sentencing then the jury will be inside the courtroom 10:30 Eastern Vinnie we will be here back to you all right chanlee payter inside the courtroom big thank you to my Think Tank tonight and our coverage continues here on court TV as always gavel to gavel coverage we could be in a verdict watch again tomorrow have a one Wonder ful night and don’t forget to hug the kids